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There is a reason clients keep coming back to Algonquin Outfitters for their outdoor adventure experience, year after year. The key is the people behind the scenes that make everything work, many of whom you may never meet, but all help make your experience enjoyable and safe. If you haven’t found the answer you seek elsewhere on this web site, this is your chance to draw on some of their knowledge and ask questions. Better yet, feel free to send us an email or pick up the phone.

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Algonquin Park: How big is Algonquin Park?

Algonquin Park is a huge expanse of wilderness. Covering 7,725 square kilometers (2,983 square miles, 765,345 ha) of rugged Canadian Shield country, the park is home to an abundant wildlife population, including moose, wolves and black bears. While many Algonquin visitors see moose, the latter two creatures are less common sights. During late August and into the fall, people who try howling for wolves are often rewarded with a mournful response from a nearby pack. Smaller mammals like otters, fox, chipmunks, squirrels and raccoons are common sights. Over 250 bird species have been recorded in Algonquin Park and every one's favorite wilderness bird, the common loon, is found nesting on most lakes.

A canoe tripper could spend a lifetime exploring Algonquin Park. Over 1500 km of canoe routes follow lakes, streams and portage trails through the vast forested interior. Campsites and portages are marked and well maintained. Fly-ins are prohibited. Motor boats are restricted to a few lakes and road access to the park is limited to the Hwy. 60 "corridor" and peripheral access points. As a result, most of Algonquin Park is only accessible by canoe. Backpacking and day hiking trails allow travel on foot. In the winter the park is also open to travel by ski and snowshoe.

If Algonquin Park was a country it would be bigger than 152 other countries in the world!

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Canoe Routes: Where should I go?

It is difficult to give specific route advice without knowing whether you have a park map and what previous experience you have in Algonquin Park.

We often suggest routes starting from Opeongo Lake (access point # 11 - we have an outfitting store there), Cedar Lake (access point 27 - we have an outfitting store there also), Smoke Lake (access point #6) or Rock Lake (access point #9). Our outfitting store at Oxtongue Lake is the most convenient outfitting store for the last two access points. If you would like more detailed descriptions, please call us, at 1.800.469.4948, with a map handy.

Here is a link to our Google map that shows Algonquin Park Access Points.

A Free Digital Algonquin Park Map is available at this address:
www.algonquinmap.com

You can order the Algonquin Park Canoe Routes Map (along with guide books and many other useful park publications) on-line at:
www.store.algonquinpark.on.ca

For the most comprehensive unofficial site, lots of trip planning information, route ideas, trip logs and other related links, check out 'Algonquin Adventures' at
www.algonquinadventures.com.

Descriptions of many Algonquin routes can also be found at the Canadian Canoe Routes web site's Algonquin page:
www.myccr.com

There are guidebooks available that can help you with your canoe trip planning. "A Paddler's Guide to Algonquin," by Kevin Callan , has some excellent route descriptions and canoe trip tales. Don Lloyd's fine book, "Canoeing Algonquin Park," is another very useful resource for trip planning. Different areas of the park are described and mapped so that you can put your own trip together. A great deal of historical information and natural history is also presented. You can order these books on-line at:
www.store.algonquinpark.on.ca

If you have not considered this already, I would suggest making camping permit reservations before making equipment reservations. The park permit reservation system has been centralized for all provincial parks in Ontario. You can make reservation up to 5 months ahead of your trip. Reservations for Algonquin Park interior trips can be made by calling toll free: 1-888-668-7275. They will want to know where you intend to camp each night of your trip. To check campsite availability in advance of making a reservation or get route advice, call the Algonquin Park information line at 705-633-5572.

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Canoeing: What to bring on a canoe trip?

Many people want to know what to bring on a canoe trip and the answer varies depending on the route, group, season and many other factors. The simple answer is to book one of our complete outfitting packages. In that scenario, all you need to bring are your personal items like clothing, toiletries and camera. You can read more about our complete outfitting canoe trips here. We also have a list of personal gear to bring on a completely outfitted canoe trips.

If you are planning your own canoe trip, here's a basic list of the things we suggest you pack:
Start with a lightweight (eg. Kevlar) canoe equipped with a comfortable yoke for portaging.

  • 1 life-jacket or PFD for every person
  • 1 paddle for every person
  • bilge pump or bailing bucket
  • 15+m throw rope (floating)
  • painter rope (end of canoe)
  • signaling device (whistle & flashlight)
  • waterproof map case & canoe route map
  • rain jackets and tarp to cover gear if it rains
  • 1 canoe pack, barrel pack or dry pack for every person

Barrel Pack

  • great for transporting food, they are mostly water proof, crush proof and somewhat critter proof.
  • come in either 30L or 60L size and are available with backpack harnesses to make carrying them over portages easier.
  • 50ft+ rope for hanging food pack

Canoe Pack (the one piece of gear that is a “must have” if you are doing any portages)

  • canoe packs are shorter and wider than hiking packs, they allow you to carry a canoe and a pack easier than a hiking pack. They are usually between 90 and 120L in size, made out of water resistant material (although not water proof), and usually have adjustable shoulder harnesses, waist belts, and side cinch straps. Many also have side paddle pockets to attach paddles if your not portaging the canoe.
  • the goal here is to get all of your gear inside the pack, this will make your portaging much easier.
  • ground sheet / tarp (keep accessible)
  • extra 3-5mm rope (50-100ft) to hang tarp
  • rain gear (keep accessible)
  • light weight (<10lbs) free standing tent with full fly
  • inflatable sleeping pad
  • light weight sleeping bag
  • stuff sacks / smaller dry bags / compression bags
  • single burner camp stove
  • fuel for stove
  • matches in waterproof container / lighter
  • pots & pans set (many people travel with just one pot and a lid that doubles as a fry pan)
  • 1 bowl/plate/cup/1L water bottle, each and utensils
  • water treatment (purifier or filter)
  • leather work gloves (for handling things around the fire)
  • kitchen set (includes cooking utensils, knife, spices, bio-degradable soap, etc)
  • anti-bacterial wet wipes (great for general cleaning)
  • toilet paper in zip lock bag
  • wilderness first aid kit
  • canoe route or topographical maps / waterproof map case
  • compass / GPS with extra batteries
  • folding camp saw
  • parts kit (duct tape, extra rope, zip lock bags, multi-tool, parts for stove, water filter, etc.)
  • bug jacket, bug repellent
  • headlamp with extra batteries

Essential Personal Items

  • t-shirt (two for longer trips)
  • quick-drying shorts and/or swim suit
  • small towel (quick dry micro-fibre type)
  • lightweight long sleeved shirt (cotton/polyester blends are good)
  • sun hat (a full wide brim is better than a ball cap)
  • quick-drying long pants (some styles convert to shorts by zipping off the legs)
  • sunglasses
  • wool sweater or fleece jacket
  • sturdy footwear for portages (preferably well broken in)
  • socks (wool, bamboo or synthetic)
  • campsite footwear (eg. sport sandals, running shoes)
  • toilet articles
  • extra socks for around the campsite (keep these dry!)
  • spare prescription glasses & personal medications (in waterproof container)
  • good quality rain gear (jacket and pants)
  • sunscreen
  • pocket knife

Highly Recommended Items

  • notebook or journal and pencils
  • camera with extra batteries and memory cards (or even film!) in waterproof container
  • binoculars and field guides
  • day pack or fanny pack for frequently used items
  • fishing rod and tackle (fishing license can be purchased in the park)
  • rainy day entertainment: (book, cards, portable board game, etc.)

Spring & Fall Extras

  • lightweight synthetic or wool long underwear (top & bottom)
  • wool or fleece hat
  • wool or fleece gloves or mitts
  • extra insulating layers (eg. fleece pants and jacket)
  • waterproof footwear

This list covers the basic requirements for an Algonquin Park canoe trip. Many people choose to pack more items than what we have listed here. Keep in mind that everything you pack is extra weight to portage, so do your best to keep it light and pack just the essentials.

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Kayaking: in Algonquin Park

I'd like to do an interior trip in trip in Algonquin Park using a kayak. Is this a good idea?
While kayaks are certainly fast and fun to paddle, we generally try to discourage people from using then on trips with longer and/or many portages. Portaging kayaks is tricky and time consuming, and will use up most of the time you gain by faster paddling. A good compromise might be paddling a solo canoe with a kayak paddle. This offers individual travel with close to the speed of kayak but the carrying capacity and ease of portaging of a canoe.

We rent a variety of solo canoes, including Swift solo models like the Shearwater and Osprey. All are 14 - 16 feet long, weigh 35 - 40 lbs and come with a detachable carrying yoke, since the seat is in the centre of the boat. Gear space varies with the model. They all tend to be narrower than tandem canoes. I would recommend the Shearwater for your first solo trip, since it is the most roomy and very stable.

For more information on Solo Canoe trips or Kayaks visit our Solo trip page.

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Hiking: Where can I hike in Algonquin Park?

Algonquin Park hiking trails fall in to one of two categories, either day hiking trails or backpacking trails.

  • Day Hiking Trails: Algonquin Park features 18 day hiking trails that range from less than a kilometer in length to over 10km. (See the Day Hiking Trails Map)
  • Backpacking Trails: There's something for every outdoor enthusiast in Algonquin Park. If you're looking for more than just a day excursion, you may want to try one of the three different backpacking trail systems located in Algonquin Park. These trails offer loops from 6km to 88km in length, designated camping areas and are the only way to access remote regions of the Algonquin Park interior on foot. (See the Backpacking Trails Map)

The Friends of Algonquin Park also publish an excellent and inexpensive map, with contours, for the Western Uplands, Highland and Eastern Pines backpacking trails in Algonquin Park. You can order the Backpacking Trails Map (along with guide books and many other useful park publications) on-line from the Algonquin Park Book Store.

Ordering Books & Maps

The Backpacking Trails Map can be ordered on-line from the Algonquin Park Book Store or from Algonquin Outfitters by mail order. Call Algonquin Outfitters in Oxtongue Lake to order Adventure Maps, Backroad Mapbooks and government topos (1-800-469-4948). There is a $5 handling charge for maps sent outside of Canada.

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Camping: What about the bears?

There are black bears in Algonquin Park. Most people never see one but there are simple precautions you can take. For a good overview on bears, bear behavior and strategies for camping in areas inhabited by bears, check out the Algonquin Park bear page , the Black Bear page from The Science Behind Algonquin's Animals and the Bear Wise Home Page.

Bears are very intelligent animals and can figure out most "bear-proofing" systems. In Algonquin Park, food-hanging is probably the most popular method and has proven to be fairly reliable, if done properly and care is taken to reduce food odors, which is what attracts animals in the first place.

Many people use so-called "barrel packs" for food storage on canoe trips. These are 60 litre industrial-grade plastic shipping containers with a custom backpack-style harness. We rent and sell these packs ($8/day to rent, about $140 for barrel & harness to purchase). Though some folks claim these are bear-proof, I would not guarantee it. They are certainly highly bear-resistant, and, because they are air and water-tight, do a very good job of protecting food and containing odors.

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Portaging: What is the best way to portage a canoe?

Portaging typically falls into two categories:

1. a nice walk in the woods that is a pleasant break from paddling
2. anyone would be nuts to actually do this for fun

The trick between making most portages fall into the first category is planning and practice, coupled with a few tricks.

To best "enjoy" portaging here are a few things to start with:

  • pick a lightweight canoe, as an extra 10lbs can make a big difference when you have to carry it for 2km.
  • pick a canoe with a comfortable yoke. All of our Kevlar rental canoes feature a deep dish yoke designed for portaging.
  • for extra comfort try one of our custom yoke pads.
  • learn a two person lift to get the canoe up for a one person carry.
  • wear supportive footwear and carry a proper fitted pack.

The number one thing you can do to make portages go faster is to do it in “one trip.” If you can handle the weight, then you will save a lot of time, even though it is a little harder. Take short breaks more often will help compensate for the extra effort. In the end, you would have to spend two thirds of your time resting one a “one-trip” portage to take the same amount of on a “two-trip” portage, provided that you don't take a break.

If you have to make multiple trips, there is the one-and-a-half portage trick. This requires more than one person and equal numbers in each group works best. The trippers effectively split into two groups. The first group takes their first load, goes to the halfway mark in the portage and sets the load down. They then return to the beginning, pick up the remainder of the gear and cross the entire portage. The second group takes their gear to the far end of the portage, then returns to the halfway point to pick up the gear that group number one dropped off. For safety, it’s a good idea to wait for each other at this point then finish the portage together. Instead of all members walking the portage three times (over-back-and-over), they all walk the portage twice (once over, plus the other time made up of the two half trips). This technique is best used on longer portages. Those under a few hundred metres are not as tough to slug through in two trips. The time savings using the “trip and a half” method on portages over a kilometer are substantial.

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Outfitting / Rentals: Do you deliver canoes to Algonquin Park access Points?

Yes, we frequently deliver canoes for large groups unable to transport canoes with their own vehicles. Please call or email for a quotation.

For parties renting smaller numbers of canoes, we can drop off canoes at certain access points access points but this is usually not required for groups with their own vehicles. The charge starts at $50 each way. Most people starting trips along Hwy 60 (at popular access points like Canoe, Smoke, Cache or Rock lakes) pick up canoes at our Oxtongue Lake store and transport the boats themselves, using car top carriers that we rent for a very economical rate. We even rent roof racks so that you can carry two or even three canoes on one vehicle. We use high quality Yakima roof rack systems and our expert "rack fitters" can safely install a roof rack on almost any vehicle.

We do not offer a regular campground delivery service but our Opeongo Store offers a discounted rental rate for roadside campground users, call them toll-free at 1-888-280-8886 and ask about the "campground special."

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Biking: Are there mountain bike trails?

There are many excellent mountain bike trails in Muskoka, Haliburton and Algonquin Park. Here are a few public trails that you should be aware of:

1. Algonquin Park: Minnesing Mountain Bike Trail, provides moderate challenge for mountain bike riders in Algonquin Park. with loops from 4.7 to 23.4 km in length.
2. Algonquin Parks: Old Railway Bike Trail, provides an excellent experience for families and those seeking an easier ride along 10km of old railway bed.
3. Buck Wallow Mountain Bike Trail, located near Gravenhurst, operates over 20km of professional mountain bike trails. Information 705.687.8858.
4. Hardwood Hills Mountain Bike Trail, located in Orillia, operates over 80km of mountain bike trails. Iinformation 1 800.387.377
5. Porcupine Ridge Mountain Bike Trail, located in Bracebridge, operates 25k of mountain bike trails.

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Nordic Skiing: Are there Nordic ski trails?

Algonquin Park is truly a winter wonderland from December through March. With frozen lakes, snow covered ground and frosted trees, it's one of the most beautiful and peaceful sights to be seen.

A great way to get out there and enjoy winter in Algonquin Park is on cross-country skis, touring one the three Nordic ski trail systems.

1. Leaf Lake Ski Trail
2. Fen Lake Ski Trail
3. Minnesing Wilderness Ski Trail

Outside of the park there are several more ski trail systems to explore.

1. Arrowhead Ski Trails
2. Frost Centre Ski Trails

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Wildlife: What kind of wildlife resides in Algonquin Park?

Algonquin Park is home to many different types of animals, birds, reptiles, insects and fish.

  • Moose - about 3500 moose live in Algonquin Park
  • White-tailed deer are often seen along Hwy #60 on spring mornings
  • Beaver - you may want to hike the Beaver Pond Trail
  • Black Bear - about 2000 black bears live in Algonquin Park
  • Wolves - about 35 wolf packs reside in Algonquin Park
  • Chipmunks & red squirrels are common small mammals in the park
  • Loons - Algonquin Park's most popular bird
  • 272 recorded bird species have been identified in Algonquin Park
  • 31 different species of reptiles and amphibians live in Algonquin Park
  • 7,000 species of insects are buzzing around, including many butterflies blackflies and mosquitoes

For more information on Algonquin Park's wildlife visit The Science Behind Algonquin's Animals website.

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Seasonal/Weather: When is Algonquin Park ice out?

A few seasons ago, our intrepid reporters unearthed a secret document revealing the results of a 33 year study of ice-out dates on Opeongo Lake. Opeongo is usually the last lake to open up in Algonquin Park. "Ice-out" refers to the day when boat travel from end to end is unimpeded by ice. Over 33 years of record-keeping, the average ice-out date was April 30, the earliest was April 12, 1981, and the latest, May 15, 1972. The official ice-out date for 2008, for example, was April 25. With such a wide range of potential dates, you now know why our staff have such difficulty answering that popular question, "When will the ice go out this year?" The best strategy for trip planning is to have a flexible schedule and route plan and to phone us closer to your trip dates to get a better prediction.

We post current conditions, pictures and reports as we get them on our web log (starting in early April - check the archives for previous reports):
www.algonquinoutfitters.blogspot.com/

For an informative and up to date report on Canoe Lake ice conditions in spring, visit:
www.canoelake.ca/iceout/

For the official word from Algonquin Park staff, visit
www.algonquinpark.on.ca
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Gear/Sales: Do you sell your used canoes & kayaks?

One of the most searched-for items on the Algonquin Outfitters website and blogs is “Used Swift Canoes.” Although there are several posts on used canoes, one of the reasons you won't often find a detailed list of the used canoes we have for sale is that the inventory changes very frequently. We encourage anyone looking for a used canoe to make the drive out to our Oxtongue Lake location or visit one of the Swift Road Shows and actually look, feel and even paddle a used canoe before you buy one.

The best time to look for a used canoe from Algonquin Outfitters or Swift is in the fall, starting in September, or in the spring around late April and May. It's often difficult for us to look for canoes in the winter because of the two metre snow drifts often found around our Oxtongue Lake store, and in the summer most of our rental canoes are in high demand.

Every year we sell off several dozen used canoes. Most are retired rentals that have seen several seasons of rental use and will usually have scratches and even patches on their hulls. All of our canoes have been reconditioned to a "no leak" condition and some may even have had new paint jobs. All are a good value.

Most Kevlar models sell between $900 and $1500 (about half to a third of their retail price) and fiberglass models sell between $500 and $800. The most popular used models are the Swift Algonquin 16 & 17 and the Swift Kipawa 16'6". We may have the occasional solo canoe or ABS Dumoine but they are not always available.

We also sell off many of our rental kayaks each year, with prices starting at 20-50% off.

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Algonquin Outfitters: Where can I find your store locations?

The Original Outdoor Adventure Store
Established in 1961, Algonquin Outfitters has grown to include a family of stores in the Algonquin Park, Muskoka and Haliburton Highlands regions. While the core of the business has always been Algonquin Park wilderness canoe trips, our product lines and services have grown to include mountain and road bikes, canoe, kayak, wakeboard and waterski sales, as well as winter sports equipment like snowboards, alpine and nordic skis and snowshoes. Retail locations located in Oxtongue Lake, Huntsville, Bracebridge, Minden and Haliburton carry a wide variety of gear and clothing. Seasonal locations at Opeongo Lake and Brent operate within Algonquin Park, offering rental and retail services for park visitors from late April through Canadian Thanksgiving. Locations at Hidden Valley Highlands ski area near Huntsville and Sir Sam's ski area in Haliburton also operate in the winter months, providing demo programs for ski and snowboard as well as clothing and accessories.

Each Algonquin Outfitters location has a unique personality, catering to the particular needs of that area. Every store has a retail presence and all, with the exception of Bracebridge, offer outdoor equipment rentals, in varying degrees. Visit the page for each location to find out more information.

More information about our stores, outfitting bases and the products we sell can be found online in the Store Locations pages.

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Miscellaneous: more, ask the expert, answers?

The "Ask the Expert" section on our website is one area that will grow over time. We have answered many more questions in the AO Community Just look for "Notes (FAQ)" under the Forum button after joining the Community.

The Community is also a gathering place for people who enjoy visiting Algonquin Park. It can provide a wealth of information and if you can't find the answers here, try posting your question in the "Forum," where you will find many people willing to share their insight and experience.

Want to ask our experts directly? You can do so from the main Ask the Expert page.

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